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by Zeljko Heimer
At independence in 1992 Macedonia retained the red flag but added a gold star in a gold sun. This was soon changed to the Sun of Vergina. (Flags of the World) [udk97]
Nozomi Kariyasu, 24 August 1998
There was no interim flag of that description. The former official Macedonian flag was retained until it was replaced with the flag with the sun of Vergina.
Zeljko Heimer, 18 November 1999
The Greek point of view
Greece protests against the use of "Greek" symbols and names made
by Macedonian Government. Among these controversial symbols there is
the device (like a sun) which appears in the middle of the Macedonian
"Why does Greece object to the use of the "Vergina Sun" on the FYROM flag?
The Vergina Sun, the emblem of Philip's dynasty, symbolizes the birth of our nation. It was the first time (4th century BCE) that the Greek mainland (city-states and kingdoms) with the same language, culture, and religion were united against the enemies of Asia in one league. At the same time the fractured Greek world grew conscious of its unity. And, in this sense, we have never been apart since then. The `Sun' was excavated in Greece in 1978, and it is sacred to us."
Source: rec.culture.europe: FAQ about Macedonia written according to the Greek point of view
Most of the above claims are of course highly controversial. This emblem was found on tomb 2 at Kutlush (to give Vergina its pre ethnically cleansed name). However there is no agreement that this is the tomb of Philip II nor that this emblem (which appears with a variety of numbers of arms) was either the dynastic emblem of the Argeads (the ruling house of Macedonia) or of the country itself. The emblem isn't specifically Greek or Macedonian - it is found in the Near East thousands of years before it turns up in Europe and ironically features as a decorative motif on one of the reliefs of Persian Immortal Guardsman found at Darius' palace at Susa.
Andy T. Fear
In the book Handbuch der Ornamentik by F.S. Meyer (Leibniz 1927, reprint Berlin 1997), there is an ornament that is quite similar to Vergina sun of the first Macedonian flag, with this main difference - the 16 rays are not of the same size, eight main rays are "inscribed" into a square (so diagonal rays are longer then horizontal and vertical), while the "minor" 8 are shorter and inscribed into a circle. Anyway, the ornament is captioned:
Uraniskus einer griechischen Deckenkassette. Propyläen in Athen.
Zeljko Heimer, 12 September 1999
The Macedonian point of view
Citation of an interview to Kiro Gligorov, President of FYROM (Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia), about the national flag:
Q: In the quarrel with Greece, what's more
important: the name of the State (that Greece wants to contain no
reference to "Macedonia") or the flag (Greece does not like it
because it contains the Vergina sun, a symbol related to Alexander
the Great) ?
A: The name of the State.
Q: Therefore you are ready to change the flag.
A: We can try to make an agreement on anything but the name of the State.
Source: Limes 3/95, quoted by Giuseppe Bottasini, 28 August 1995
The final agreement
Greece recognizes Macedonia's sovereignty and will lift its
embargo, while Macedonia will change its flag and amend its
constitution to stress that it has no claims on Greek territory.
Greece and Macedonia have 30 days to implement these measures, and the agreement will remain in effect for seven years or until a definitive accord is signed.
Source: OMRI, 14 September 1995, quoied by Jan Oskar Engene, 15 September 1995
For the record, here is the relevant bit of the interim agreement
between Greece and Macedonia in which Macedonia agrees to give up its
Article 7, Paragraph 2.
Upon entry into force of this Interim Accord, the Party of the Second Part [Macedonia] shall cease to use in any way the symbol in all its forms displayed on its national flag prior to such entry into force.
Josh Fruhlinger, 17 September 1995
by Sacha Shopov.
The above is the Macedonian flag as originally designed. Due to political pressures, the government of the Republic of Macedonia has proposed to eliminate the blue in the center, which is present in this image nonetheless, for completeness.
by António Martins
by António Martins
After the break-up of Yugoslavia a new unofficial flag was used: red with a golden lion; a proposal with four horizontal stripes (black, red, black, red) with the golden lion in the center was never adopted. I think that the proposal is a reminiscent of the 1903 proposal.
Jaume Ollé, 6 November 1996