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by Istvan Molnar
The flag of King (Saint) Stephen I King Saint Stephen, the
first king of Hungary reigned between 1000 and 1038. I saw it
also in Nagymaros opposite the Castle of Visegrád.
Istvan Molnar, 7 January 2001
by Istvan Molnar, 24 November 2000
This flag was the flag of the Árpád House, the House of the
first Hungarian kings. It based on a picture on a stamp from
1981. The title is: Flag of the Árpád House in the 11th
The first known member of the Árpáds was Prince Ügyek. His son, Álmos and Álmos's son Árpád werethe leaders of the Hungarians at the time of the Hungarian Conquest in the Carpathian Basin at the end of the 9th century. The Árpáds reigned in Hungary till 1301.
Istvan Molnar, 24 November 2000
by Istvan Molnar, 1 June 2001
Yesterday I was in the Hungarian Institute & Museum of
Military History and I got 16 picture from Mrs. Csákvári,
Györgyi Kottra counsellor, chief museologist and head of
collection at the Military History Institute and Museum of the
Original comment for the flag
"1 -2. Family and royal banner of the House of Árpád (reconstruction). The two flags were reconstructed on the basis of portrayals of the period. They follow the pattern of medieval banners, the heraldic, rectangular flags. The textile parts substitute for the escutcheons. The earlier one with the patriarchal cross appeared during the reign of Béla III. As his coat-of arms the king had chosen the patriarchal cross of Byzantine origin, which was placed on the red escutcheon of the Árpáds. The triple mound under the cross appeared later. The red-argent striped flag appeared during the reign of Béla's sons, Imre and András II, as a revival of the coats-of arms of the previous kings. The flags and coats-of arms were used parallel to each other throughout the Middle Ages by kings from the House of Árpád and other dynasties in Hungary, as well. The two coats-of arms have made up today's Hungarian national arms, their colours are today's national colours."
Istvan Molnar, 1 June 2001
by Istvan Molnar, 15 June 2001
you can find two pictures. On the first you can see King Charles
I, king of the Kingdom of Hungary with his Royal CoA. On the
second picture there is a Hungarian historical flag from the 14th
century. On the picture is the Battle of Rozgony 1312. Pictures
from the Képes Krónika (Illustrated Chronicle) from the 14th
István Molnár, 12 Febuary 2001
"3. Angevin (Anjou) royal banner, reconstruction - Banner used during the reign of Charles Robert and Louis the Great, made up of the family colours of the Angevins and Árpáds. The latter symbolised the Angevins' legal claim to the throne."
King Charles (Robert) I. 1301-1342
King Louis (the Great) I. 1342-1382
Istvan Molnar, 15 June 2001
On this Turkish picture from the 15-16th century you can see a
yellow-blue flag. On the picture there is the Great Victory at
Belgrade (Nándorfehérvár) in 1456. see http://www.magyarmult.externet.hu/Hunyadiak/Kepek/nandorfehervar.jpg
István Molnár, 12 Febuary 2001
This is a picture whose photo was sent by me two years ago
from the original at Topkapi Saray in Istanbul.
IIRC, Zeljko suggested that it is how the artist thought a Christian flag looks like but not a real flag that was viewed by him.
Dov Gutterman, 13 Febuary 2001
Maybe this flag relates to the flag (?) of János Hunyadi,
regent of Hungary. Here
is his CoA: Two fields are blue with black crow, two fields are
white with red lion.
István Molnár, 13 Febuary 2001
I think this flag is on the walls of Belgrade in 1456: http://www.geocities.com/zaszlok/hazateres/zaszlok/hu-hunya.jpg
This is the flag of János (Johannes) Hunyadi, regent of Hungary.
István Molnár, 13 Febuary 2001
Here is the story of the Great Victory of János Hunyadi in
1456 - <http://www.thehistorynet.com/MilitaryHistory/articles/08965_text.htm>
István Molnár, 27 Febuary 2001
See also: Black Army Flag
by Istvan Molnar, 19 June 2001
by Istvan Molnar, 19 June 2001
The flag of the Black Army. The Black Army was the centre of
the mercenary force of King Mathias I. From http://www.geocities.com/zaszlok/Muzeum/:
"5. The so-called `Black Army' banner, reconstruction This
characteristic flag with a forked tail was reconstructed after a
miniature in Philostratus Chronicle, one of the Corvinas,
representing the 1485 entry of Corvin János, son of king
Matthew, into Vienna. The black colour of the flag used to be
white (argent) in fact, but the argent paint had become oxidised.
The reconstruction preserves the original colour."
I made two images. The traditional (black) and the original (white (?)).
Istvan Molnar, 19 June 2001
Shouldn't the bird in the heart shield be white also in the
second flag? This would be more in accordance with the heraldic
tincture rule. The fields represent Hungary (1 and 4) and Bohemia
(2 and 3).
Elias Granqvist, 20 June 2001
The heart shield is the CoA of the Hunyadi Family. On the blue
field there is the black crow on its mouth there is a silver
Istvan Molnar, 20 June 2001
There is another reason why the bird remains black. As
Istvan said, it is the shield of the Hunyadi family, whose
members included one Governor of Hungary, one Regent of Hungary,
one Ban (Landowner/Lord type rank) of Transylvania, and one King
of Hungary. The bird on the shield is a raven, after a
story that the young Janos (John) Hunyadi was comissioned by his
mother, Erzsebet (Elizabeth) Szilagyi, to take a ring to the
then-King of Hungary and Holy Roman Emperor, Zsigmond (Sigismund)
of Luxembourg. She had been given this ring by him, during
one of his hunting trips in the are where she resided. On
the way to the royal court, young Hunyadi and a servant stopped,
andf he started napping. He was soon woken up by his
servant, being told that the ring had been taken by a crow, and
she was flying away with it in her bill. Hunyadi killed the
crow with his last arrow, and when he was given a coat of arms,
he chose to have a raven with a ring in its bill as his emblem.
Another small fact about this CoA: The Hunyadi family's
name in Latin is "Corvinus", meaning "crow",
or "raven". And King Matthias' library, where the
book covers all had the shield on them, was known as the Corvina
Library, second only to the Pope's. It is also the name of
one of the foremost publishing houses in Hungary today.
Georges G. Kovari, 22 June 2001
János (John) Hunyadi (1406 - 23 October 1456), Ban (governor)
of Transylvania 1441-1446. Regent of Hungary 1446-1453
Mátyás (Mathias) Hunyadi (23 Febuary 1440 - 6 April 1490), King of Hungary (1458-1490). Other name Mathias Corvinus.
Erzsébet Szilágyi was the wife of János Hunyadi and she was the mother of King Mathias. No data about János Hunyadi's mother. By a legend his mother was Erzsébet Morzsinai a daughter of a Walachian voevod (kenéz!) and his father was King Sigismund (king of Hungary 1387-1438). The fact: Vajk, a Walachian noble, royal warrior got the tenure and castle of Hunyad in 1409, when János was 3 years old. Vajk of Hunyad (he had got the family name about the castle) had got another son. This boy was named János too (!!!!) You can see the tomb of the two brother (the two János Hunyadi) in the Roman Catholic cathedral of Alba Iulia city (Alba county, Romania; its Hungarian name: Gyulafehérvár). The young János Hunyadi became one of the richest lords of Hungary. His fantastic castle you can see in Hunedoara city (Hunedoara county, Romania; its Hungarian name: originally Hunyadvár - from the 15th century Vajdahunyad)
The legend of the ring, crow etc. - The crow holding a ring in its mouth is in a legend about the descend of Hunyadi János (John of Hunyad), father of King Mathias, governor of Hungary, the victorious hero of the siege of Nándorfehérvár (Belgrade) in 1456. By the legend his father, King Sigismund, King of Hungary, Emperor of the Holy Roman Empire (Germany) fell in love with a young Transylvanian (Walachian) girl. To remember this love the king gave a ring to the girl. The girl, who was the daughter of a Transylvanian Boyar bore a boy. When the little child, Jankula played on the yard of the House of the Morzsinai Family a crow stole the ring. The mother of Jankula was frightened and his brother shot the crow. The girl went to the king to remind him of their love and to show him their child. The king took upon himself to bring up the young boy. After a month the king gave a CoA to the Morzsinai Family (a crow holding a ring in its mouth) and a great tenure in Transylvania, in Hunyad. The boy lived in the Castle of Hunyad and was given him the name: Hunyadi.
This is a short reconstruction of the legend...
Istvan Molnar, 22 June 2001
I do not want to look like a conceited person, but let me tell
my own family history on my maternal side. By mother's maiden
name is Marussy, and there is a family tradition that Marussy is
a Hungarized version of the Cumanian name Morzsinai, and that we
are descendants of the brother of Morzsinai Erzsebet, so we have
a blood relationship connection to the Hunyadi family. Our family
tradition also say that the Morzsianai/Marussy clan is not of
Vlachian origin, but of Cumanian origin. They came to Hungary
from Moldva in the 14th century. The original letter of nobility
dated from the 17th century is in the posession of my mother's
cousin, it says "it is issued to certify that Marussy Andras
is already a noble". The nobility prename of the family is
fehervari (de Alba Iulia), so there is a big coincidence. Of
course there is no proof for this, maybe the family tradition is
fake, I don't know.
Ivan Marinov, 22 June 2001
In the 15th century the word Walachian didn't means Walachian
ethnicity but origin from Walachia (now southern part of
Romania). Before the Mongol Invasion the territory was under
Cumanian rule. It could be the nobles were Cumanians by origin in
the 15th century...
Istvan Molnar, 22 June 2001
by Istvan Molnar, 3 August 2001
(photo taken at the Castle of Lendava/Lendva, Slovenia)
Nicholaus Zrínyi (1620-1664), In Hungarian: Zrínyi Miklós,
Hungarian lord, general, Hungarian poet. In Croatian: Nicola
Zrinski, Croatian-Hungarian lord, general, Croatian poet In Latin
(the official language of the Kingdom of Hungary): Nicolaus a
Zrini, The family has got its family name from the Castle of
Zrin(y). Their original name was Subič. Nicholaus Zrínyi wrote
the famous Hungarian epic: "A szigeti veszedelem" about
his great-grandfather, Nicholaus Zrínyi's battle at Szigetvár
1566. From a Croatian page about the Zrínyi - Zrinski family -
(flag is "Nicola VII"s flag) at http://www.hr/darko/etf/subich.html
"...Nikola VII, like his father, before him, was famous for
his heroism and education. The Franciscans in Cakovec owe him
special gratitude since he was the man who established the
Franciscan order in Cakovec. There is still a portrait of Juraj
[gyo'rgy] at the Franciscan monastery with a Latin inscription in
its upper corner: "Com. Nicolaus a Zrinio Regn. Dalm. Croat.
Et Slav- Banus ac PP Franciscanorum Prov. S. Ladislai Chaktorn,
introductor et illocator Ao 1659" (Prince Nikola Sdrinia,
the Viceroy of Dalmatian, Croatian and Slavonian Kingdom, the man
who introduced the Franciscan fathers of St. Ladislav's province
to Cakovec in 1659). Due to his heroic acts (the Turks were
scared away from Kanjiza forever; the Drava bridge at Osijek was
burnt down) he became a Viceroy of Croatia and was respected and
appreciated throughout Europe. Nikola was also famous as a poet
and a polyglot - he spoke seven languages; in 1651, he wrote
"Adriai Tengernek Syrenaia" (Adriatic Sea Murmaid) in
Hungarian. Besides other poems, it contains the heroic epics on
the battle of Siget and Nikola of Siget's death. After the peace
treaty at Vasvar was concluded, he became the central figure of
the Zrinski - Frankopan plot, but not for long, since he was
killed by a wounded boar (?) while hunting at Kursanecki Lug on
the 18th November 1664. "
The flag in my site can be seen here and here.
Istvan Molnar, 3 August 2001
from http://www.khvm.hu/Muzeumok/muzeumok.html, located by Istvan Molnar
Just found this picture on the page of the Ministry of
Transport and Water Management of the Hungarian Republic (KVM).
The picture is a link to the Museums (the title is: Post Office
Museum Hollókő village).
The flag is an old flag, maybe from the years of the Prince Rákóczi's War of Independence. I didn't find anything about this picture. At the time of the war such flags were used.
Prince Francis Rákóczi II was the Reigning Prince of Transylvania and the "Commanding Prince" of Hungary, who was the leader the Anti-Habsburgian Independence war 1703-1711 in Hungary. It could be used between in this era. "CUM DEO PRO PATRIA ET LIBERTATE" was the inscription on the flags at the time of Prince Rákóczi's War of Independence.
Istvan Molnar, 23 November 2000 and 27 March 2001
Latin for "With God for Country and Freedom".
Elias Granqvist, 27 March 2001
Old flag with the CoA of the Rakoczi family from the 17-18th
century is at http://www.tarnok.hu/.
The Rákóczi family gave some Transylvanian princes and Francis
Rákóczi II the leader prince of the independence war 1703-1711
Istvan Molnar, 30 August 2001
Flag from 1703-1711
Rákóczi's Revolt at http://www.historicaltextarchive.com/hungary/prolibza.gif.
Istvan Molnar, 6 January 2002
Here is a photo of
Military flag 1838 type (used in Hungary).
Istvan Molnar, 24 January 2002
On the page http://www.sulinet.hu/tananyag/97122/on/T246.HTM:
The crowning ceremony of King Leopold I. on 27th June 1665. in
Pozsony (Pressburg, now Bratislava). You can see two flags with
the Hungarian CoA a flag with Croatian and a flag with Dalmatian
On the page http://www.sulinet.hu/tananyag/97122/on/T252T.HTM: The crowning ceremony of King Leopold II. on 15th November 1790. in Pozsony (Pressburg, now Bratislava). You can see some flags and you can see the Hungarian colours in USE.
On the page http://www.sulinet.hu/tananyag/97122/on/T253T.HTM: The crowning ceremony of King Ferdinand V. on 28th September 1830. in Pozsony (Pressburg, now Bratislava). You can see some flags and you can see the Hungarian colours in USE. Crowning flag of Hungary at http://www.sulinet.hu/tananyag/97122/on/MEDIA/M14.JPG. Crowning flag of Cumania at http://www.sulinet.hu/tananyag/97122/on/MEDIA/M13.JPG. Crowning flag of Bulgaria at http://www.sulinet.hu/tananyag/97122/on/MEDIA/M12.JPG
Do you know more information about theses pictures?
István Molnár, 8 June 2001
These coronation flags, as they are called, were used only on
coronation ceremonies in Bratislava, and thogh they are an
important relict showing the Croatian statehood continuity there
seems to be quite little resarched. However, two of such are
preserved in Croatian Historical Museum, one from 1830 and an
other from 1867. There is a short article obout those flags in
the exhibition catalogue of the flag exhibition held in the
museum few years ago. Even if the article is very much
concentrated to Croatian flags only, it may give few hints on
their use and history. There are also few references to some
Slovakian sources. They may then give us more info, and I don't
doubt that there is also extensive Hungarian literature about the
coronations that would encompass flags, too. I would guess that
some more examples of those flags are preserved in museums of
Hungary and slovakia (and more somewhere else?).
Zeljko Heimer, 9 June 2001
I have contacted Mrs. Jelena Borosak-Marjanovic from Croatian
Historical Museum (cf. [bor96])
regarding the big difference in design of the coronations flags
that are preserved in CHM and those displayed in St. Mathias
church in Budapest. As I have suggested this may be due (among
other possibilities) that those in St. Mathias church are not the
coronation flags from the event, but might be replicas made at
some latter point. Mrs. Borosak-Marjanovic is inclined to agree
with that assumption, and suggest that this might happened while
the church was renovated in 1874-1896.
Zeljko Heimer, 19 June 2001
It seems that Zeljko is right. The facts are I have
got a picture: "Historical flags on the Mathias
Church." and I have got an information from the church:
"On the church there are only coronation flags from
Pictures and descriptions from her on this page: http://www.geocities.com/zaszlok/Muzeum/
István Molnár, 19 June 2001
Flying historical flags in
Hódmezövásárhely. Elements of nowadays CoA (the
historical small CoA). You can see the original flags at http://www.geocities.com/zaszlok/hazateres/tortenel.html
István Molnár, 1 March 2001